Phoenix vs Optimus Gen 3: Specs, Price & ROS Support Compared (2025)
Sanctuary AI vs Tesla — independent, side-by-side analysis.
Quick Verdict
Optimus Gen 3 leads in more DOF, faster speed. Overall, Optimus Gen 3 has an edge in 2 out of 2 compared categories.
Phoenix
Sanctuary AI
Optimus Gen 3
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Phoenix Optimus Gen 3
Specifications
Contact (enterprise). Phoenix Gen 8 still in development; since mid-2026 Sanctuary also sells its Carbon control software on third-party industrial robotsPriceNo official price or pre-orders; Musk target $20,000–$30,000 at scale. V3 not publicly revealed as of Sep 2026; Fremont lines being installed, first units for internal training (Q2 2026 update). Only confirmed V3 hardware figure: 22-DoF hand, 50 actuators total
170 cmHeight168 cm
70 kgWeight55 kg
41DOF50
25 kgPayload25 kg
—Runtime9h
0.83 m/sSpeed2.5 m/s
YesStairsYes
NoLiDARNo
Carbon AI system (Microsoft Azure)ComputeTesla AI5 custom SoC
Ecosystem Openness
8
Phoenix
/100
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Optimus Gen 3
Carbon AI fully proprietary. Microsoft Azure backend.
Pros and cons at a glance
Phoenix
Pros
- High rated payload (25 kg) for industrial pick-and-place
- 41 degrees of freedom — full-body articulation
Cons
- Still in development, no commercial availability
- Unit price not publicly disclosed (quote-on-request or enterprise-only)
- Closed software stack — no public SDK or ROS support
Optimus Gen 3
Pros
- High rated payload (25 kg) for industrial pick-and-place
- Long runtime (9h per charge) for full-shift operation
- 50 degrees of freedom — full-body articulation
Cons
- Still in development, no commercial availability
- Unit price not publicly disclosed (quote-on-request or enterprise-only)
- Closed software stack — no public SDK or ROS support
Frequently asked questions
How do Phoenix and Optimus Gen 3 compare on price?
Phoenix: Contact (enterprise). Phoenix Gen 8 still in development; since mid-2026 Sanctuary also sells its Carbon control software on third-party industrial robots. Optimus Gen 3: No official price or pre-orders; Musk target $20,000–$30,000 at scale. V3 not publicly revealed as of Sep 2026; Fremont lines being installed, first units for internal training (Q2 2026 update). Only confirmed V3 hardware figure: 22-DoF hand, 50 actuators total.
Last updated: 2025